[gentoo-user] emerge xmlto > ERROR: app-text/xmlto-0.0.18 failed.

[Dale]

Hi,

I have ran into this error a lot of times. I posted it the other day
but have learned that a lot of people don't read HTML stuff. So here I
go again.

This is the whole thing, sorry it is a bit long but I didn't want to cut
out the very part you need. Yes, my rig is named smoker. :/

Calculating dependencies ...done!

emerge (1 of 1) app-text/xmlto-0.0.18 to /
md5 files ;-) xmlto-0.0.17.ebuild
md5 files ;-) xmlto-0.0.18.ebuild
md5 files ;-) files/xmlto-head-fix.patch
md5 files ;-) files/digest-xmlto-0.0.17
md5 files ;-) files/digest-xmlto-0.0.18
md5 src_uri ;-) xmlto-0.0.18.tar.bz2
Unpacking source...
Unpacking xmlto-0.0.18.tar.bz2 to /var/tmp/portage/xmlto-0.0.18/work
Source unpacked.

./configure --prefix=/usr --host=i686-pc-linux-gnu
--mandir=/usr/share/man --infodir=/usr/share/info --datadir=/usr/share
--sysconfdir=/etc --localstatedir=/var/lib --build=i686-pc-linux-gnu
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking for gawk... gawk
checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc... i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc
checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out
checking whether the C compiler works... yes
checking whether we are cross compiling... no
checking for suffix of executables...
checking for suffix of object files... o
checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes
checking whether i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc accepts -g... yes
checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc option to accept ANSI C... none needed
checking for style of include used by make... GNU
checking dependency style of i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc... gcc3
checking whether i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc and cc understand -c and -o
together... yes
checking for flex... flex
checking for yywrap in -lfl... yes
checking lex output file root... lex.yy
checking whether yytext is a pointer... yes
checking for mktemp program... mktemp
checking for GNU find program... find
checking for bash... bash
checking for getopt program... getopt
checking whether getopt handles long options... yes
configure: creating ./config.status
config.status: creating Makefile
config.status: creating xmlto
config.status: creating xmlto.spec
config.status: creating config.h
config.status: executing depfiles commands
make all-am
make[1]: Entering directory
`/var/tmp/portage/xmlto-0.0.18/work/xmlto-0.0.18'
if i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.
-march=athlon-xp -O3 -MT xmlif/xmlif.o -MD -MP -MF
"xmlif/.deps/xmlif.Tpo" -c -o xmlif/xmlif.o `test -f 'xmlif/xmlif.c'
|| echo './'`xmlif/xmlif.c; \
then mv -f "xmlif/.deps/xmlif.Tpo" "xmlif/.deps/xmlif.Po"; else rm -f
"xmlif/.deps/xmlif.Tpo"; exit 1; fi
i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -march=athlon-xp -O3 -Wl,-z,now -o
xmlif/xmlif xmlif/xmlif.o
for xml in xmlif.xml xmlto.xml; do \
FORMAT_DIR=./format XSL_DIR=./xsl \
bash ./xmlto -o man/man1 man ./doc/$xml ; \
done || ( RC=$?; cat ./FAQ; exit $RC )
warning: failed to load external entity
"http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/manpages/docbook.xsl"
compilation error: file
/var/tmp/portage/xmlto-0.0.18/temp/xmlto-xsl.ShHrwX line 4 element import
xsl:import : unable to load
http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/manpages/docbook.xsl
warning: failed to load external entity
"http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/manpages/docbook.xsl"
compilation error: file
/var/tmp/portage/xmlto-0.0.18/temp/xmlto-xsl.Rpd0Wc line 4 element import
xsl:import : unable to load
http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/manpages/docbook.xsl
Q: I'm trying to build xmlto on my Debian box, but it doesn't work.
A: If you get `Attempt to load network entity' errors when building
xmlto, your system does not have the required support for XML
Catalogs
(http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/entity/spec-2001-08-06.html).
In particular, Debian has no support for these. Try the Fedora
Project <http://fedora.redhat.com>.
make[1]: *** [man/man1/xmlto.1] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/xmlto-0.0.18/work/xmlto-0.0.18'
make: *** [all] Error 2
!!! ERROR: app-text/xmlto-0.0.18 failed.
!!! Function src_compile, Line 27, Exitcode 2
!!! (no error message)
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status
message.

It wants to emerge it sometimes during a emerge -uv world. I try to
keep it up to date. I have looked and seen where people gripe about it,
including me, but have not found a real fix. I did also try USE="-doc"
emerge xmlto and it still fails. I'm a dial-up user but I am connected
to the net when I try this. Everything else can get to the net. I
dunno why it can't.

Is there a fix for this? Do I need to install something else to make it
work? Should I file a horse and BUGgy report? LOL

What you guys, and gals, think?

Dale
Sorry for the HTML last time. :-(

[Holly Bostick]

Post by Dale
Hi,
I have ran into this error a lot of times. I posted it the other day
but have learned that a lot of people don't read HTML stuff. So
here I go again.
This is the whole thing, sorry it is a bit long but I didn't want to
cut out the very part you need. Yes, my rig is named smoker. :/

emerge (1 of 1) app-text/xmlto-0.0.18 to /

<snip>

Post by Dale

warning: failed to load external entity
"http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/manpages/docbook.xsl"
compilation error: file
/var/tmp/portage/xmlto-0.0.18/temp/xmlto-xsl.ShHrwX line 4 element
import xsl:import : unable to load
http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/manpages/docbook.xsl
warning: failed to load external entity
"http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/manpages/docbook.xsl"
compilation error: file
/var/tmp/portage/xmlto-0.0.18/temp/xmlto-xsl.Rpd0Wc line 4 element
import xsl:import : unable to load
http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/manpages/docbook.xsl
Q: I'm trying to build xmlto on my Debian box, but it doesn't work.
A: If you get `Attempt to load network entity' errors when building
xmlto, your system does not have the required support for XML
Catalogs

<snip>

Post by Dale
It wants to emerge it sometimes during a emerge -uv world. I try to
keep it up to date.

OK, if it's emerging only during a -uv world, it's 1) not in your world
file; and 2) a direct dependency of something that is.

Since there are two solutions to this problem (actually 3), and this
information impacts one of them, we'll look at that impact first, but
the three solutions are:

1) if it's an actual bug (check b.g.o.) then you have to wait for it to
be fixed (unless you happen to be able to fix it in the source code
yourself).
2) If it's a bug you cannot fix, or if it's not a bug at all (meaning
it's either an unmoveable obstacle, or you have a system problem), you
have one choice either way;

2a) eliminate the need for the program (until the bug is fixed, but you
can also choose this if you're lazy and don't really feel like messing
around with the problem, no crime in that)

2b) fix the underlying system problem so the program emerges.

So far we know that xmlto is being emerged as a direct dependency of
something-- but what?

(from www.gentoo-portage.com )

Programs That Depend On xmlto

app-text/robodoc
dev-util/mercurial
sci-geosciences/gpsd
sys-auth/libnss-pgsql
doc media-gfx/k3d

Which, if any of these programs do you have installed on your system?

Post by Dale
I did also try USE="-doc" emerge xmlto and it still fails.

This is not a solution-- xmlto does not have any USE flags; all its
dependencies are required, not optional.

However, if k3d is the program you have installed in your world file
that depends on xmlto, then compiling *that* -doc will remove the
dependency on xmlto and the problem is solved (because xmlto will not
attempt to compile or upgrade as a result of an emerge -uv world. You
might then consider removing it via emerge depclean-- but be careful
with depclean-- or manually with emerge -Cav xmlto).

If k3d is not the program you have installed which depends on xmlto, but
one of the others listed above and you want/need to keep that program,
you have to try and fix xmlto (assuming that this is not an unresolved
bug; again, check b.g.o if you haven't-- ALL xmlto should do for the
search terms).

Since the problem seems to revolve around docbook, and one of the
dependencies of xmlto is

(again from www.gentoo-portage.com , piped to prevent Thunderbird
thinking its a quote)


Runtime Dependencies
xmlto-0.0.18

| app-shells/bash
| app-text/docbook-xml-dtd4.2
| >= app-text/docbook-xsl-stylesheets - 1.62.0-r1
| dev-libs/libxslt
| sys-apps/utillinux

xmlto-0.0.17

| app-shells/bash
| app-text/docbook-xml-dtd4.2
| >= app-text/docbook-xsl-stylesheets - 1.62.0-r1
| dev-libs/libxslt
| sys-apps/utillinux

I would suggest recompiling the two docbook dependencies, most notably
docbook-xml-dtd, and seeing if that helps in any way. If you really need
xmlto. But I admit that if I had this problem, I'd be more likely to get
rid of xlmto, and any programs that depended on it (or find an
alternative to the programs which did not require xmlto) to solve the
problem. You've gotta pick your battles, and I myself do not need to
fight to get xmlto working.

You may have different priorities, though.

HTH,
Holly

[Dale]

Post by Holly Bostick
Programs That Depend On xmlto
app-text/robodoc
dev-util/mercurial
sci-geosciences/gpsd
sys-auth/libnss-pgsql
doc media-gfx/k3d
Which, if any of these programs do you have installed on your system?

I have none of those installed, but that k3d looks familiar. It is not
installed though. May have read about it somewhere. Is that that 3D
desktop thing? I did install that once but unmerged it ages ago.

Post by Holly Bostick

Post by Dale
I did also try USE="-doc" emerge xmlto and it still fails.

This is not a solution-- xmlto does not have any USE flags; all its
dependencies are required, not optional.

I read about that somewhere. It was worth a try. < shrugs shoulders >

Post by Holly Bostick
Runtime Dependencies
xmlto-0.0.18
| app-shells/bash
| app-text/docbook-xml-dtd4.2
| >= app-text/docbook-xsl-stylesheets - 1.62.0-r1
| dev-libs/libxslt
| sys-apps/utillinux
xmlto-0.0.17
| app-shells/bash
| app-text/docbook-xml-dtd4.2
| >= app-text/docbook-xsl-stylesheets - 1.62.0-r1
| dev-libs/libxslt
| sys-apps/utillinux
I would suggest recompiling the two docbook dependencies, most notably
docbook-xml-dtd, and seeing if that helps in any way. If you really need
xmlto. But I admit that if I had this problem, I'd be more likely to get
rid of xlmto, and any programs that depended on it (or find an
alternative to the programs which did not require xmlto) to solve the
problem. You've gotta pick your battles, and I myself do not need to
fight to get xmlto working.

I did re-emerge the docbook things, several times I might add, no
workey, just more smoke. :(

Post by Holly Bostick
You may have different priorities, though.
HTH,
Holly

Me has one big priority right now, getting back to Mobile AL to see my
lady. :-)

What would die if I unmerged it? I don't want to remove it and then
reboot or something and it blow smoke at me. :/ I don't relish in
reinstalling Gentoo. I would, but I would rather not.

So you will know, this comes up on occasion when I do a emerge -uv
world. I usually do a emerge --resume --skipfirst and it carries on.
It just seems to pop up on occasion and is getting under my skin.

Thanks for the help though. I added a sig below. Fits me huh?? LOL

Dale
:-)

[Holly Bostick]

Post by Dale

Post by Holly Bostick
Programs That Depend On xmlto
app-text/robodoc dev-util/mercurial sci-geosciences/gpsd
sys-auth/libnss-pgsql doc media-gfx/k3d
Which, if any of these programs do you have installed on your
system?

I have none of those installed, but that k3d looks familiar. It is
not installed though. May have read about it somewhere. Is that
that 3D desktop thing? I did install that once but unmerged it ages
ago.

It is not *currently* installed, you mean. But xmlto remains installed
as a dependency of the uninstalled package.

Does it (xmlto) appear in the output of an emerge deplclean -p (don't
forget the -p!!)?
<snip>

Post by Dale

Post by Holly Bostick
Runtime Dependencies xmlto-0.0.18
| app-shells/bash | app-text/docbook-xml-dtd4.2 | >=
app-text/docbook-xsl-stylesheets - 1.62.0-r1 | dev-libs/libxslt
| sys-apps/utillinux
xmlto-0.0.17
| app-shells/bash | app-text/docbook-xml-dtd4.2 | >=
app-text/docbook-xsl-stylesheets - 1.62.0-r1 | dev-libs/libxslt
| sys-apps/utillinux
I would suggest recompiling the two docbook dependencies, most
notably docbook-xml-dtd, and seeing if that helps in any way.
<snip>

I did re-emerge the docbook things, several times I might add, no
workey, just more smoke. :(
What would die if I unmerged it?

Apparently nothing, since you don't have any applications installed that
depend on it to work.

Post by Dale
I don't want to remove it and then reboot or something and it blow
smoke at me. :/ I don't relish in reinstalling Gentoo. I would,
but I would rather not.

First of all, a reinstall of Gentoo is very rarely necessary, and
certainly not for a minor text application being uninstalled, no matter
what depends on it. Even in a dire emergency, when almost eveyrthing
seems to be broken, it's rarely *necessary* to reinstall, but it's a
*choice* one might make to save work or time. But Gentoo can almost
always be fixed /in situ/, without a full reinstall being needed.

Second of all, you have checked everything you can check; apparently you
don't need this application (nothing you do need depends on it), and
it's causing you problems with its irrelevant self.

Uninstall it and see what happens. It *should* be all right, but
sometimes being a Gentoo user requires a leap of faith.

Post by Dale
So you will know, this comes up on occasion when I do a emerge -uv
world. I usually do a emerge --resume --skipfirst and it carries on.
It just seems to pop up on occasion and is getting under my skin.

This further suggests thaxt nothing depends on the application, so
you're likely safe to just emerge -C it.

HTH,
Holly

[Dale]

Post by Holly Bostick
It is not *currently* installed, you mean. But xmlto remains installed
as a dependency of the uninstalled package.
Does it (xmlto) appear in the output of an emerge deplclean -p (don't
forget the -p!!)?

It is not in that list. I'm pretty sure I had that though. I'm never
100% on anything.

Post by Holly Bostick
Apparently nothing, since you don't have any applications installed that
depend on it to work.

It is about to get the boot then.

Post by Holly Bostick
First of all, a reinstall of Gentoo is very rarely necessary, and
certainly not for a minor text application being uninstalled, no matter
what depends on it. Even in a dire emergency, when almost eveyrthing
seems to be broken, it's rarely *necessary* to reinstall, but it's a
*choice* one might make to save work or time. But Gentoo can almost
always be fixed /in situ/, without a full reinstall being needed.

Problem is, if it don't boot into a GUI, I can't get to the net and get
help. Keep in mind that I don't dual boot windoze or anything. I
usually start over if I can't get it to work by myself. It has been a
while since I had serious trouble though. I did have a blank inittab
file once, that was . . . . interesting. I back-up my /etc on occasion
and just sort of copied one over after booting the CD. ;) Worked a lot
better then. :)

Post by Holly Bostick
Second of all, you have checked everything you can check; apparently you
don't need this application (nothing you do need depends on it), and
it's causing you problems with its irrelevant self.

Humor I like. LOL

Post by Holly Bostick
Uninstall it and see what happens. It *should* be all right, but
sometimes being a Gentoo user requires a leap of faith.

Here goes the leap. If I disappear for a day or so, it wasn't good.
:( I have portage and distfiles on a seperate partition though. o_O
Just in case.

Post by Holly Bostick
This further suggests thaxt nothing depends on the application, so
you're likely safe to just emerge -C it.
HTH,
Holly

Well, I hope this works. What is HTH?

Dale

[Dale]

Well, I tried. This is funny.

--- Couldn't find xmlto to unmerge.

unmerge: No packages selected for removal.

If it is not there, what is trying to pull it in? This is weird. That
k3d thing is not installed either.

Dale
:-)

[Dale]

Post by Dale
If it is not there, what is trying to pull it in? This is weird. That
k3d thing is not installed either.
Dale
:-)

Well, I had a brain storm, it happens sometimes LOL, and I found this

Post by Dale
[ Searching for packages depending on xmlto... ]
sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.12-r10

Why does the kernel need xmlto? It seems to work without it. Anyway
around this? I do need to hang onto my kernel stuff though. LOL It
sort of needs that when I boot up. O_O I may have to make a new one
some day.

Sorry if I buggered that command a bit, but it did work OK. I'm
learning. Hang in there with me. ;)

Dale

[Hans-Werner Hilse]

Hi,

On Wed, 02 Nov 2005 06:47:10 -0600

Post by Dale
Why does the kernel need xmlto? It seems to work without it.

in order to build documentation. Remove the doc USE flag if you don't
want it to.

-hwh

[Dale]

Post by Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi,
in order to build documentation. Remove the doc USE flag if you don't
want it to.
-hwh

So the Kernel has documentation or is this the little help screen in
menuconfig? I need that help screen. I don't know what half that stuff
is even with the help.

Don't they have a new thing that we can override the USE for specific
packages in /etc/portage? This would be a good time to use it if it is
not the help screen. Maybe that was a future feature I was reading
about. ????

Dale

[Alexander Skwar]

Post by Dale
So the Kernel has documentation

Yes.

Post by Dale
or is this the little help screen in
menuconfig?

No, that's not affected by USE=doc.

Post by Dale
Don't they have a new thing that we can override the USE for specific
packages in /etc/portage?

Yes. /etc/portage/package.use
Syntax:
category/pkg flags

eg.

net-ftp/lftp gnutls nls -socks5 ssl

Alexander Skwar

[Holly Bostick]

Post by Dale

Post by Hans-Werner Hilse
in order to build documentation. Remove the doc USE flag if you
don't want it to.

So the Kernel has documentation or is this the little help screen in
menuconfig? I need that help screen. I don't know what half that
stuff is even with the help.
Don't they have a new thing that we can override the USE for specific
packages in /etc/portage? This would be a good time to use it if it
is not the help screen. Maybe that was a future feature I was
reading about. ????

No, the "doc" USE flag is extra documentation,

useflag doc
/usr/portage/profiles/use.desc:doc - Adds extra documentation (API,
Javadoc, etc)

the 'help' screen you're talking about is part of the kernel. Removing
it doesn't remove internal help, like the kernel help, or man and info
pages-- those are *required*, and options subject to USE flags are
*optional*.

But if it will help, I don't use the "doc" flag either:

[ebuild NS ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.14 -build
-doc +symlink (-ultra1) 38,399 kB

And my kernel help works fine.

And what you're talking about w.r.t the overriding of USE flags is not
'a new thing' (though it may be new to you :-) ), it's a Portage feature.

You can create a file, called /etc/portage/package.use, which contains
such overrides; here's a snippet of mine:

sys-libs/glibc userlocales erandom glibc-compat20 glibc-omitfp
linuxthreads-tls
www-client/kazehakase-cvs estraier firefox thumbnail
www-client/mozilla-firefox mozsvg mozxmlterm
www-client/mozilla moznocompose moznoirc moznomail mozp3p mozplaintext
mozsvg mozxmlterm
www-client/galeon firefox
mail-client/mozilla-thunderbird mozplaintext
mail-client/sylpheed-claws clamav dillo
media-video/gxine -mozilla
dev-libs/gmime mono
dev-python/gnome-python-extras mozilla
net-libs/gecko-sdk mozsvg mozdevelop
dev-java/blackdown-jre mozilla
dev-java/blackdown-jdk mozilla
dev-java/sun-jre-bin mozilla

Read man portage for more details.

In any case, this feature allows you to override the USE flags for
specific packages, while leaving the flag active for the rest of the
packages that may use it.

So if I was someone who actually used the "mozilla" USE flag generally
(it was + in /etc/make.conf), gxine would build without it, but other
programs that use it would still build with it, because I only overrode
/etc/make.conf with respect to gxine, not all other programs-- and in
fact all my java installs and gnome-python extras will be built with the
flag active (because I specified that, too).

Keeps one from clogging up /etc/make.conf with anything but the
"essentials" (truly global settings).

Read man portage for more details; it's a wealth of information.

Holly

[Dale]

Post by Holly Bostick
the 'help' screen you're talking about is part of the kernel. Removing
it doesn't remove internal help, like the kernel help, or man and info
pages-- those are *required*, and options subject to USE flags are
*optional*.
[ebuild NS ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.14 -build
-doc +symlink (-ultra1) 38,399 kB
And my kernel help works fine.
And what you're talking about w.r.t the overriding of USE flags is not
'a new thing' (though it may be new to you :-) ), it's a Portage feature.

It is new to me, I had to create it.

Post by Holly Bostick
You can create a file, called /etc/portage/package.use, which contains
<snip>
dev-java/blackdown-jdk mozilla
dev-java/sun-jre-bin mozilla

Thanks for the examples. *That* helps me a lot. Reading man pages
without examples does very little if anything at all for me. I learn by
doing or seeing examples and understanding how they work and what they mean.

For those that need to see it in use like me, I added this to my

Post by Holly Bostick
sys-kernel/gentoo-sources -doc

I then emerged gentoo-sources which was trying to pull in xmlto in the
first place. It installed with no errors and xmlto is no longer needed.

Thanks for the help guys, and Holly. I assume Holly is the only lady in
the house. o_O

Dale

[Alexander Skwar]

Post by Dale
For those that need to see it in use like me, I added this to my

Post by Holly Bostick
sys-kernel/gentoo-sources -doc

In your file, do you also have those ">" in front of the "sys-kernel"?
If so - you shouldn't have them there.

Post by Dale
Thanks for the help guys, and Holly. I assume Holly is the only lady in
the house. o_O

:)

Alexander Skwar

[Dale]

Post by Alexander Skwar

Post by Holly Bostick
sys-kernel/gentoo-sources -doc

In your file, do you also have those ">" in front of the "sys-kernel"?
If so - you shouldn't have them there.

There is no <, > or = in there. I copy and paste all I can because my
typing sucks. I type slow and it still sucks. :(

Post by Alexander Skwar
Alexander Skwar

At least now anybody reading this will not make the mistake though.

Thanks again.

Dale

[Holly Bostick]

Post by Dale
There is no <, > or = in there. I copy and paste all I can because
my typing sucks. I type slow and it still sucks. :(

emerge gtypist
emerge tuxtype
emerge tuxtype2
emerge dvorak7min (if you happen to have a dvorak keyboard)
emerge dvorakng (ditto)
emerge typespeed
emerge ktouch

Naturally you don't need all of these, but I thought I'd list what's in
Portage. I have gtypist and tuxtype2 installed, but haven't got around
to scheduling them yet :-( .

Isn't it nice to know you can use your computer to help you in your
life? :-)

Holly

[Dale]

Post by Holly Bostick
emerge gtypist
emerge tuxtype
emerge tuxtype2
emerge dvorak7min (if you happen to have a dvorak keyboard)
emerge dvorakng (ditto)
emerge typespeed
emerge ktouch
Naturally you don't need all of these, but I thought I'd list what's in
Portage. I have gtypist and tuxtype2 installed, but haven't got around
to scheduling them yet :-( .
Isn't it nice to know you can use your computer to help you in your
life? :-)
Holly

Well, I took typing in high school . . . . they kicked me out after
about 2 weeks. The teacher even helped me after school and all, still
no go. I also took piano lessons for a good long while. My teacher
said she has taught kids that are "mentally challenged" that did better
with the fingers. I just can't get my fingers to work for me. I'm
getting a bit better now that I have my own rig though. This is my
first computer of my own.

It's funny though, I can fix about anything. I'm good with mechanical
stuff. Guy thing I guess. < shrugs > I can rebuild a car motor with
no problems.

Since I'm disabled, having a computer helps a lot. I don't get out to
much. I go to town about once or twice a week to get groceries, usually
late at night, and that is about it. I can go all month on a tank of
gas sometimes. Going to see my girlfriend, about 300 miles away, was
the longest trip I have taken in many years. I'm hoping to go back this
weekend. I miss all 100 lbs of her. I talked to her a bit ago. <
grins real big >

Dale
:-)

[Neil Bothwick]

Post by Dale
Thanks for the examples. *That* helps me a lot. Reading man pages
without examples does very little if anything at all for me. I learn by
doing or seeing examples and understanding how they work and what they mean.

man portage is full of examples, such as:

package.use
Per-package USE flags. Useful for tracking local
USE flags or for enabling USE flags for certain
packages only. Perhaps you develop GTK and thus you
want documentation for it, but you don't want docu-
mentation for QT. Easy as pie my friend!

Format:
- comments begin with #
- one DEPEND atom per line with space-delimited USE flags

Example:
# turn on docs for GTK 2.x
=x11-libs/gtk+-2* doc
# disable mysql support for QT
x11-libs/qt -mysql

[Dale]

Post by Alexander Skwar
package.use
Per-package USE flags. Useful for tracking local
USE flags or for enabling USE flags for certain
packages only. Perhaps you develop GTK and thus you
want documentation for it, but you don't want docu-
mentation for QT. Easy as pie my friend!
- comments begin with #
- one DEPEND atom per line with space-delimited USE flags
# turn on docs for GTK 2.x
=x11-libs/gtk+-2* doc
# disable mysql support for QT
x11-libs/qt -mysql

Is man:emerge in Konqueror the same as man emerge in a command line? I
usually do my man pages in Konqueror is why I ask. I assume they are
the same. I didn't see a lot of examples like they gave in that man
page. Maybe I'm getting blind. o_o I know my eyes take me a while
when I first get out of bed.

Post by Alexander Skwar
USE variables may be specified on the command line to override those specified in the default locations, letting you avoid using some dependencies you may not want to have. USE flags specified on the command line are NOT remembered. For example, USE="-X -gnome" emerge mc will emerge mc with those USE settings. If you want those USE settings to be more permanent, you can put them in /etc/portage/package.use instead.

I found that with the ctrl + f find thingy. It was the only one. Am I
out of date maybe or should I use the Konsole man pages?

I like the sig. Top posting got me in a mess when I first came here
though. Some don't like rebels I guess. ;)

Dale

[Neil Bothwick]

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Post by Dale
Is man:emerge in Konqueror the same as man emerge in a command line?

Yes. it's also the same as #man in the Alt-F2 Run command box, which is
the one I usually use.

Post by Dale
I
usually do my man pages in Konqueror is why I ask. I assume they are
the same. I didn't see a lot of examples like they gave in that man
page.

that's because while "man emerge", "man:emerge" and "#emerge" are all
equivalent, none of them give the information in the *portage* man page :)

[Dale]

Post by Neil Bothwick
that's because while "man emerge", "man:emerge" and "#emerge" are all
equivalent, none of them give the information in the *portage* man page :)

Holy smoke, I didn't know that was there. Parden me while I go read
this new man page. I'm sure I'll have new questions then. ;) LOL

That is different from man emerge though.

Dale
:-)

[Neil Bothwick]

Post by Dale
Holy smoke, I didn't know that was there. Parden me while I go read
this new man page. I'm sure I'll have new questions then. ;) LOL
That is different from man emerge though.

man emerge just documents the emerge command and its options. man portage
documents the postage system. The files in /etc/portage belong to
portage, not emerge.