[gentoo-user] Getting printer working, the road of Pain.

[Alan Grimes]

Ok. I'm going to have to do it. I'm going to have to get my blessed
printer working.

It is the finest laser printer money can buy. God himself uses it to
process the paperwork involved in assigning souls to either heaven or
hell... What I'm saying is that the printer is such an immaculate
example of printing perfection that linux is going to give me absolute
hell getting it working.

I will be sthocked if I can get it working in less than two weeks
working full time and without influcting a migraine and/or an ulcer on
myself.

(meanwhile, Windows can print to the thing effortlessly....)

Right now linux is so broken that the CUPS web interface will deny all
attempts to administer the printer and reject any password. The config
file is written in moonspeak, I just need the motherfucking thing to say
yes when I tell it to do a thing. I expect it to take 2-3 days just to
get over this hurdle.

How can people actually go around installing linux on people's computers
as if they were doing them a favor when it really is this bad?

[tastytea]

Post by Alan Grimes
[…]
Right now linux is so broken that the CUPS web interface will deny
all attempts to administer the printer and reject any password. The
config file is written in moonspeak, I just need the motherfucking
thing to say yes when I tell it to do a thing. I expect it to take
2-3 days just to get over this hurdle.

I solved this problem by replacing the contents of every <Location>
block with:

Order allow,deny
Allow localhost
Allow from fd69:0:0:0:*
Allow from 192.168.69.*

Post by Alan Grimes
How can people actually go around installing linux on people's
computers as if they were doing them a favor when it really is this
bad?

It's not bad at all if you use a distribution with a better default
configuration, pre-installed drivers and a pre-installed GUI for setting
up the automatically detected printer in less than 5 clicks.
Unless you have a printer from a shitty company, of course.

[Michael]

Post by tastytea

Post by Alan Grimes
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Right now linux is so broken that the CUPS web interface will deny
all attempts to administer the printer and reject any password. The
config file is written in moonspeak, I just need the motherfucking
thing to say yes when I tell it to do a thing. I expect it to take
2-3 days just to get over this hurdle.

I solved this problem by replacing the contents of every <Location>
Order allow,deny
Allow localhost
Allow from fd69:0:0:0:*
Allow from 192.168.69.*

Post by Alan Grimes
How can people actually go around installing linux on people's
computers as if they were doing them a favor when it really is this
bad?

It's not bad at all if you use a distribution with a better default
configuration, pre-installed drivers and a pre-installed GUI for setting
up the automatically detected printer in less than 5 clicks.
Unless you have a printer from a shitty company, of course.

You'll need the right drivers for the printer you have. This page is a good
start for CUPS and usually it doesn't take long to connect to the printer and
start printing.

https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Printing

Modern printers invariably offer their own http(s) web GUI for administration,
which may also need configuring, but just printing alone should be achievable
by using the guidance in the wiki above.

[Lee]

Who needs to go to the hassle maintaining a printer of their own, buying
cartridges, paper etc? I set up an online account at my neighborhood
Kinkos, and I just upload whatever docs I need and they print out in HD
whatever I need for pennies a page. Ymmv.

Lee 😎

Post by tastytea

Post by Alan Grimes
[
]
Right now linux is so broken that the CUPS web interface will deny
all attempts to administer the printer and reject any password. The
config file is written in moonspeak, I just need the motherfucking
thing to say yes when I tell it to do a thing. I expect it to take
2-3 days just to get over this hurdle.

I solved this problem by replacing the contents of every <Location>
Order allow,deny
Allow localhost
Allow from fd69:0:0:0:*
Allow from 192.168.69.*

Post by Alan Grimes
How can people actually go around installing linux on people's
computers as if they were doing them a favor when it really is this
bad?

It's not bad at all if you use a distribution with a better default
configuration, pre-installed drivers and a pre-installed GUI for setting
up the automatically detected printer in less than 5 clicks.
Unless you have a printer from a shitty company, of course.

[Wols Lists]

Post by Lee
Who needs to go to the hassle maintaining a printer of their own, buying
cartridges, paper etc? I set up an online account at my neighborhood
Kinkos, and I just upload whatever docs I need and they print out in HD
whatever I need for pennies a page. Ymmv.

YMMV. But if your neighbouhood Kinkos is fifty miles away your mileage
most definitely does vary :-)

Cheers,
Wol

[Peter Humphrey]

Post by Wols Lists

Post by Lee
Who needs to go to the hassle maintaining a printer of their own, buying
cartridges, paper etc? I set up an online account at my neighborhood
Kinkos, and I just upload whatever docs I need and they print out in HD
whatever I need for pennies a page. Ymmv.

YMMV. But if your neighbouhood Kinkos is fifty miles away your mileage
most definitely does vary :-)

What is a Kinkos?

[David M. Fellows]

Post by Peter Humphrey

Post by Wols Lists

Post by Lee
Who needs to go to the hassle maintaining a printer of their own, buying
cartridges, paper etc? I set up an online account at my neighborhood
Kinkos, and I just upload whatever docs I need and they print out in HD
whatever I need for pennies a page. Ymmv.

YMMV. But if your neighbouhood Kinkos is fifty miles away your mileage
most definitely does vary :-)

What is a Kinkos?

Was a copy shop chain. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FedEx_Office
DaveF

Post by Peter Humphrey
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Regards,
Peter.

[Paul Colquhoun]

Post by Alan Grimes
Ok. I'm going to have to do it. I'm going to have to get my blessed
printer working.
It is the finest laser printer money can buy. God himself uses it to
process the paperwork involved in assigning souls to either heaven or
hell... What I'm saying is that the printer is such an immaculate
example of printing perfection that linux is going to give me absolute
hell getting it working.
I will be sthocked if I can get it working in less than two weeks
working full time and without influcting a migraine and/or an ulcer on
myself.
(meanwhile, Windows can print to the thing effortlessly....)
Right now linux is so broken that the CUPS web interface will deny all
attempts to administer the printer and reject any password. The config
file is written in moonspeak, I just need the motherfucking thing to say
yes when I tell it to do a thing. I expect it to take 2-3 days just to
get over this hurdle.
How can people actually go around installing linux on people's computers
as if they were doing them a favor when it really is this bad?

Two points.

1) Did you bother to research the Linux support situation before you purchased the
printer? World's finest printer or not, if they keep parts of the interface as proprietry
secrets then there is not much the Linux maintainers can do.

2) Remind us again why you still try to run Gentoo when you obviously dislike it.

[Wols Lists]

Post by Paul Colquhoun
2) Remind us again why you still try to run Gentoo when you obviously dislike it.

snark :-)

A couple of things to remember:

Gentoo IS a pita to install and run compared to most other distros -
I've had a brand new laptop lying around for 6 months which has been an
absolute pain and is still not working ...

RTFM is NOT an acceptable answer - half the time the documentation is
worse than the program, the other half of the time you can't find it and
the stuff on the web is out-or-date, irrelevant, or some other rabbit
hole ...

IBM used to have a "black team", apparently. Anybody who was just plain
useless at their job, or could never get things to work, or just took
pleasure in breaking things, was put on this team. Telling developers
their work was being handed over to this lot for testing was considered
pure torture. I guess Alan belongs on that team - at least if the devs
are reading it helps gentoo get more robust :-)

Cheers,
Wol

[k***@aspodata.se]

Wol:
...

Post by Wols Lists
Gentoo IS a pita to install and run compared to most other distros -

...

That really depends. Other distros might not have what you want or
they force upon you desicions you don't like. Just beeing easy to
install and running something irrelevant doesn't mean much if they
don't deliver what you want.

Regards,
/Karl Hammar

[Grant Edwards]

Post by Wols Lists

Post by Paul Colquhoun
2) Remind us again why you still try to run Gentoo when you obviously dislike it.

snark :-)
Gentoo IS a pita to install and run compared to most other distros -

Until you want to do something even vaguely unique or out-of-the
ordinary. Then most other distros are a PITA compared to Gentoo.

If all you want to do is run a web browser, then Gentoo is almost
definitely the wrong choice.

--
Grant